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		<title>Comment on Indian Men Who Date American Women by S</title>
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		<dc:creator>S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 02:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your parents may have given you life, but they did not earn the right or have the right to live it for you.  They lived their life, now its your turn. 

You only get one life, live it or at least die trying.  

My parents gave me many gifts as well, life, the best education, principle, morals and laurels.  They taught me to be strong, to face adversity and not shy away.  The gave me the tools to be a better person than themselves.  That was their many gifts to me, and I do not squander them.  I will not.  I will protect and use them to defend injustice, even when it lies in my home.  Even when the offenders are my parents.  

Paying respect and honour to your parents does not mean following their every command even if it goes against your principles.  Paying respect and honouring them means standing up for what is right, what is just, and finding the courage and strength to do the right thing despite the difficulties and challenges ahead.  It means being the best person we could possible be, being better than our parents.  And hopefully, our children will follow and be even better than us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your parents may have given you life, but they did not earn the right or have the right to live it for you.  They lived their life, now its your turn. </p>
<p>You only get one life, live it or at least die trying.  </p>
<p>My parents gave me many gifts as well, life, the best education, principle, morals and laurels.  They taught me to be strong, to face adversity and not shy away.  The gave me the tools to be a better person than themselves.  That was their many gifts to me, and I do not squander them.  I will not.  I will protect and use them to defend injustice, even when it lies in my home.  Even when the offenders are my parents.  </p>
<p>Paying respect and honour to your parents does not mean following their every command even if it goes against your principles.  Paying respect and honouring them means standing up for what is right, what is just, and finding the courage and strength to do the right thing despite the difficulties and challenges ahead.  It means being the best person we could possible be, being better than our parents.  And hopefully, our children will follow and be even better than us.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Indian Men Who Date American Women by S</title>
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		<dc:creator>S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 02:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bitter I see.  

Well if you can&#039;t hope and dream, then you can only be sad and sorrowful.  I pity you.  I really do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bitter I see.  </p>
<p>Well if you can&#8217;t hope and dream, then you can only be sad and sorrowful.  I pity you.  I really do.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Indian Men Who Date American Women by S</title>
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		<dc:creator>S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 01:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yogan,

I do hope everything works out for you.  I hope all your prayers, hopes and dreams come true.  I hope your story will have a better ending than mine.

You remind me so much of myself.  Your words are full of love, happiness and sadness, just like mine.  You heart is so open, so accepting, so loving, just like mine.  The risk you are willing to take, are taking, I&#039;ve taken it.  I too dove into the deep sea of vulnerability in hopes of finding ever lasting love.  The problem is, what I found there was not ever lasting love, but purgatory.  I could not sink, I could not swim, I was stuck.  I was stuck waiting for him to decide.  I wasn&#039;t even asking him for marriage. I wasn&#039;t even asking him for a ring.  I was asking for the possibility - the chance to dream.  And even to this day he cannot/will not give me an answer.  

So I walked away.  I decided no more.  The waters of purgatory were eating away at my core.  Tearing away at my self-esteem.  I questioned my self-worth, wondered what I was doing wrong, wondered what I could do to change.  It affected our relationship.  Created tension and animosity.  I knew the animosity would eventually turn to resentment, so I walked away. I decided that my soul, my self-esteem, my person could take no more.  What would have been the point of staying? Even if we made to end, we would have been too broken to even enjoy it.  

Some would say I didn&#039;t love enough, some would say I wasn&#039;t strong enough, some would even question the love altogether, but the reality is that we must always remember that until you speak those sacred vows you must always love YOURSELF first, because no one else will.  

So take care of yourself.  Be kind to yourself.  Remember that while you love and wish to support him, this is not your fight.  It is HIS and his&#039; ALONE.  

Also remember that there is no shame or blame in caring for yourself first.  If you soul can bear no more, walkaway with love, and let fate do the rest.

You are worth, and deserving of everything your heart desire! We all are!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yogan,</p>
<p>I do hope everything works out for you.  I hope all your prayers, hopes and dreams come true.  I hope your story will have a better ending than mine.</p>
<p>You remind me so much of myself.  Your words are full of love, happiness and sadness, just like mine.  You heart is so open, so accepting, so loving, just like mine.  The risk you are willing to take, are taking, I&#8217;ve taken it.  I too dove into the deep sea of vulnerability in hopes of finding ever lasting love.  The problem is, what I found there was not ever lasting love, but purgatory.  I could not sink, I could not swim, I was stuck.  I was stuck waiting for him to decide.  I wasn&#8217;t even asking him for marriage. I wasn&#8217;t even asking him for a ring.  I was asking for the possibility &#8211; the chance to dream.  And even to this day he cannot/will not give me an answer.  </p>
<p>So I walked away.  I decided no more.  The waters of purgatory were eating away at my core.  Tearing away at my self-esteem.  I questioned my self-worth, wondered what I was doing wrong, wondered what I could do to change.  It affected our relationship.  Created tension and animosity.  I knew the animosity would eventually turn to resentment, so I walked away. I decided that my soul, my self-esteem, my person could take no more.  What would have been the point of staying? Even if we made to end, we would have been too broken to even enjoy it.  </p>
<p>Some would say I didn&#8217;t love enough, some would say I wasn&#8217;t strong enough, some would even question the love altogether, but the reality is that we must always remember that until you speak those sacred vows you must always love YOURSELF first, because no one else will.  </p>
<p>So take care of yourself.  Be kind to yourself.  Remember that while you love and wish to support him, this is not your fight.  It is HIS and his&#8217; ALONE.  </p>
<p>Also remember that there is no shame or blame in caring for yourself first.  If you soul can bear no more, walkaway with love, and let fate do the rest.</p>
<p>You are worth, and deserving of everything your heart desire! We all are!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Indian Men Who Date American Women by Yogan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yogan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2012 21:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beautifully stated, S. .... thank you.  
I am in agreement with taking sober responsibility for choices... all of us.

the jury is still out in my case, as I am able to experience such states of devotion and happiness with my man still.  He is still working it out within himself.  He never did any thing much that wasnt expected from him before, and why would he want to make his already depressed and sad mom more sad... i can see it both ways.

But I will tell you the truth... the bare naked truth that I think I wont even say to him so boldly.  I really do want him, as my partner, in this life.  I would help him with his mother and father, if they wouldnt have me killed of course, or die at the sight of my old, american, divorced self....  I just do wish he would decide to stay with me, but I cant sway him, or beg him  and all ... if he wants to stay with me it really has to come from him.   

Sometimes, like today, after such a great MahaShivartri together, I feel that its possible that he will choose to just stay with me.  I wish he wouldnt be able to leave cuz he would Love me so much.  Its gotten to the point where neither he or I like to talk about this stuff at all, cuz we can be having a great time, then if we discuss, i will feel angry, or sad, or totally ill and have to go to bed.  So, now we avoid it...if it comes up we do our best to reassure each other, and move away from the topic as soon as possible.  It is utterly crippling at times.  

Mostly, I have decided I will feel better if I honor My heart and give the love I have to give, and leave the rest to him.  Will he honor that love, or not mind nearly destroying my heart..... That will remain to be seen in the fullness of time.  
I never liked gambling, but here I am throwing the dice~  crossing my fingers and praying Deeply.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beautifully stated, S. &#8230;. thank you.<br />
I am in agreement with taking sober responsibility for choices&#8230; all of us.</p>
<p>the jury is still out in my case, as I am able to experience such states of devotion and happiness with my man still.  He is still working it out within himself.  He never did any thing much that wasnt expected from him before, and why would he want to make his already depressed and sad mom more sad&#8230; i can see it both ways.</p>
<p>But I will tell you the truth&#8230; the bare naked truth that I think I wont even say to him so boldly.  I really do want him, as my partner, in this life.  I would help him with his mother and father, if they wouldnt have me killed of course, or die at the sight of my old, american, divorced self&#8230;.  I just do wish he would decide to stay with me, but I cant sway him, or beg him  and all &#8230; if he wants to stay with me it really has to come from him.   </p>
<p>Sometimes, like today, after such a great MahaShivartri together, I feel that its possible that he will choose to just stay with me.  I wish he wouldnt be able to leave cuz he would Love me so much.  Its gotten to the point where neither he or I like to talk about this stuff at all, cuz we can be having a great time, then if we discuss, i will feel angry, or sad, or totally ill and have to go to bed.  So, now we avoid it&#8230;if it comes up we do our best to reassure each other, and move away from the topic as soon as possible.  It is utterly crippling at times.  </p>
<p>Mostly, I have decided I will feel better if I honor My heart and give the love I have to give, and leave the rest to him.  Will he honor that love, or not mind nearly destroying my heart&#8230;.. That will remain to be seen in the fullness of time.<br />
I never liked gambling, but here I am throwing the dice~  crossing my fingers and praying Deeply&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>Comment on Indian Men Who Date American Women by S</title>
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		<dc:creator>S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2012 22:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yogan and all the others out there,

Do not blame yourselves for the situation, do not make excuses for inexcusable behaviour.  

We are all born with free will.  We are all born with the ability to make choices.  Sometimes we make bad ones, right ones and even ones that can&#039;t really fall on either side of the fence.  The point is we have the right to choose what we want for ourselves.  

Sometimes, most of the time, this free will comes at a price, a consequence if you will.  In some countries the price is death, others upset friends and family, financial cost, the list goes on.  But everyday you, myself and many other millions of people around the world wake up and make choices, knowing full well there will be consequences, good or bad, but we make them anyways, because we hope that at the end of it all &quot;the risk would be worth the reward&quot;.

Let me clarify, I too chose to be in a relationship with an Indian.  I knew full well that there would come a time where he would have to pick his family over me.  I decided that the risk was worth the reward - a future together forever.  

Problem isn&#039;t that you/I are not good enough, or loveable enough, or sweet enough.  The problem is that while you/I decided that risking are hearts for him was worth it, he decided risking his mother&#039;s heart on HIM wasn&#039;t worth it.  He had decided that her happiness was/is more important than even his OWN.  This is his choice, one that he will have to live with.

But you, you can decide differently. I have. 

You can decide to be HAPPY! We all can! 

We just have to allow it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yogan and all the others out there,</p>
<p>Do not blame yourselves for the situation, do not make excuses for inexcusable behaviour.  </p>
<p>We are all born with free will.  We are all born with the ability to make choices.  Sometimes we make bad ones, right ones and even ones that can&#8217;t really fall on either side of the fence.  The point is we have the right to choose what we want for ourselves.  </p>
<p>Sometimes, most of the time, this free will comes at a price, a consequence if you will.  In some countries the price is death, others upset friends and family, financial cost, the list goes on.  But everyday you, myself and many other millions of people around the world wake up and make choices, knowing full well there will be consequences, good or bad, but we make them anyways, because we hope that at the end of it all &#8220;the risk would be worth the reward&#8221;.</p>
<p>Let me clarify, I too chose to be in a relationship with an Indian.  I knew full well that there would come a time where he would have to pick his family over me.  I decided that the risk was worth the reward &#8211; a future together forever.  </p>
<p>Problem isn&#8217;t that you/I are not good enough, or loveable enough, or sweet enough.  The problem is that while you/I decided that risking are hearts for him was worth it, he decided risking his mother&#8217;s heart on HIM wasn&#8217;t worth it.  He had decided that her happiness was/is more important than even his OWN.  This is his choice, one that he will have to live with.</p>
<p>But you, you can decide differently. I have. </p>
<p>You can decide to be HAPPY! We all can! </p>
<p>We just have to allow it!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Guest Blog Post #1, Love and Heartbreak: Lijo John and Noreen by ST</title>
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		<dc:creator>ST</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Asha,

thanks for this post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Asha,</p>
<p>thanks for this post.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Indian Men Who Date American Women by Yogan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yogan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2012 01:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you S.   for that articulate reminder of what Racism is....
I was honestly quite confused when this all began for me years back ...

but over the years and with the men i have met and the ones i have dated and even the 2 i have been engaged to....and the mothers had literal fits!  threatening to die from depression and more....

I doubt myself, I think maybe Im not loveable...
and I do see that I have many undesirable traits which might make anyone flee....
but then i have to remember at the end of the day

what is really pulling the strings of the puppets we call human beings in this mess of my east west dating problems is :  Racism 
                                                    and in my case:  Ageism... 

Thanks for helping me to remember a balanced view of my (chosen) plight...
i chose this, so i know im not the victim here... 
just taking stock of the elements, and cant miss the Blatant Racism which is allowed to pass for culture in &quot;modern&quot;   , &quot;democratic&quot;  india!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you S.   for that articulate reminder of what Racism is&#8230;.<br />
I was honestly quite confused when this all began for me years back &#8230;</p>
<p>but over the years and with the men i have met and the ones i have dated and even the 2 i have been engaged to&#8230;.and the mothers had literal fits!  threatening to die from depression and more&#8230;.</p>
<p>I doubt myself, I think maybe Im not loveable&#8230;<br />
and I do see that I have many undesirable traits which might make anyone flee&#8230;.<br />
but then i have to remember at the end of the day</p>
<p>what is really pulling the strings of the puppets we call human beings in this mess of my east west dating problems is :  Racism<br />
                                                    and in my case:  Ageism&#8230; </p>
<p>Thanks for helping me to remember a balanced view of my (chosen) plight&#8230;<br />
i chose this, so i know im not the victim here&#8230;<br />
just taking stock of the elements, and cant miss the Blatant Racism which is allowed to pass for culture in &#8220;modern&#8221;   , &#8220;democratic&#8221;  india!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Indian Men Who Date American Women by alone4u1981</title>
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		<dc:creator>alone4u1981</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2012 01:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I say this from someone who was in a relationship with an Indian man who was younger than me (by 3 years). If you truly do not believe he is the kind of man who will be able to stand up to his parents and say &quot;mom dad we are getting married on this day and time I hope you can attend&quot; then you need to look after yourself and leave.  I spent over a year with my guy fighting with his mom to look past that I am a white girl in the u.s. who isn&#039;t willing to convert to his religion. I stayed with him knowing when push comes to shove as much as he said he was fighting he never told his parents this is the way I want to live my life and I want you to be part of it versus him trying to convince his mom that I would make a good wife.  In India or at least in my ex&#039;s family the two &quot;deal breakers&quot; for wife for him are she is older or she is divorced.  I fell in the first category.  If you marry someone older than your relationship maybe ok but your future generations bad fortune will come is what his mom said.  
I said the same thing you did by being with him because you love him and how each moment is precious and how no one will ever be able to take that away and not have any regrets of not having any missed time the two of you could have spent together.  I was naive and to blinded to see what was going on.  I was listening to my heart instead of my head.  If you are not willing to do this for yourself think of the emotional pain you are causing your guy and his family.  Indian moms are very devoted (not to say other moms aren&#039;t) but use emotional blackmail.  When my guy first told his mom she didn&#039;t eat any food for several day and because she didn&#039;t eat anything she didn&#039;t cook for her husband which meant he didn&#039;t eat anything (even on his birthday). My guys mom was very good and getting what she wanted by breaking him down one by one finally he said he felt like he was taking my time away from finding someone else b/c realistically he know this will never happen but didn&#039;t want to admit it because he said &quot;no one will ever love him as much as you do&quot;
I wish you the best in whatever you decide.  I wish someone would have put a mirror to my face a year.  In spite of all this if he were to knock on my door and say we can get married now I would say yes. We&#039;ve been broken up for 6 months and things are easier now but my heart still melts the rare time I see him in passing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say this from someone who was in a relationship with an Indian man who was younger than me (by 3 years). If you truly do not believe he is the kind of man who will be able to stand up to his parents and say &#8220;mom dad we are getting married on this day and time I hope you can attend&#8221; then you need to look after yourself and leave.  I spent over a year with my guy fighting with his mom to look past that I am a white girl in the u.s. who isn&#8217;t willing to convert to his religion. I stayed with him knowing when push comes to shove as much as he said he was fighting he never told his parents this is the way I want to live my life and I want you to be part of it versus him trying to convince his mom that I would make a good wife.  In India or at least in my ex&#8217;s family the two &#8220;deal breakers&#8221; for wife for him are she is older or she is divorced.  I fell in the first category.  If you marry someone older than your relationship maybe ok but your future generations bad fortune will come is what his mom said.<br />
I said the same thing you did by being with him because you love him and how each moment is precious and how no one will ever be able to take that away and not have any regrets of not having any missed time the two of you could have spent together.  I was naive and to blinded to see what was going on.  I was listening to my heart instead of my head.  If you are not willing to do this for yourself think of the emotional pain you are causing your guy and his family.  Indian moms are very devoted (not to say other moms aren&#8217;t) but use emotional blackmail.  When my guy first told his mom she didn&#8217;t eat any food for several day and because she didn&#8217;t eat anything she didn&#8217;t cook for her husband which meant he didn&#8217;t eat anything (even on his birthday). My guys mom was very good and getting what she wanted by breaking him down one by one finally he said he felt like he was taking my time away from finding someone else b/c realistically he know this will never happen but didn&#8217;t want to admit it because he said &#8220;no one will ever love him as much as you do&#8221;<br />
I wish you the best in whatever you decide.  I wish someone would have put a mirror to my face a year.  In spite of all this if he were to knock on my door and say we can get married now I would say yes. We&#8217;ve been broken up for 6 months and things are easier now but my heart still melts the rare time I see him in passing.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Indian Men Who Date American Women by Natty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Natty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2012 22:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hahahahaha ....True that but damn funny !!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hahahahaha &#8230;.True that but damn funny !!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Guest Blog Post #1, Love and Heartbreak: Lijo John and Noreen by Asha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Asha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2012 05:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry for my english, but i wanted to write this comment , from an indian girls perspective.

noreen, im sorry this happen to you, but don&#039;t be sad...... trust me , it was the best thing ever that could have happen to you.  this guy seems really fake to me.  he exaggerates too much.  i know indian guys, they are the type to say &quot;i love you&quot; on the first date.. the words don&#039;t mean anything to them. 

i dont know if you want to believe me or not... but this is the truth: he didn&#039;t marry the indian woman because he wanted to please his family, he married the indian women because he wanted a slave.  

he is a grown man and he can make his own decisions.  if he loved you , then he would have married you.  &quot;my parents wouldn&#039;t allow me&quot; is just a silly excuse.  indian parents are not THAT bad.  so his parents might be upset , but once you have children , they will get over it and you will be a normal happy family , trust me .  

if an indian girl wants to marry a white guy , she could be disowned or even in s ome muslim famlies, there are horrible honor killings.  then if the indian girl and white guy gets divorce, no indian guy will marry her after that.  but indian guys doesn&#039;t have to worry about these problems.  

he had nothing to lose by marrying you .... if he really loved you he would have married.   but thing is , he wanted a obedient slave . these indian guys will not even consider marrying an indian girl who is raised in the west because she is too westernized..  they want virgin, innocent, submissive, obedient, slave .  even though they are not virgin themselves, they want to date and have fun with western girls, tell them sweet lines, pretend to love , break their breaks and then marry indian girl. some indian guys think that white girls are easy because of bollywood movies. 

you should be really happy that this guy didn&#039;t marry you.  indian culture is very different.  if you married him, he might be nice for a few years but then this true personality will come out.  in india, little boys know that they are &quot;better&quot; and &quot;more important&quot; than girls at a young age... they are treated like little gods by everyone including their mothers who spoil them rotten.  in india, men are openly proud of their masculinity.  

in hindu culture, the husband is literally a god to his wife.  
we can&#039;t call them by their  names.
we have to do all the cooking and cleaning, indian men will expect it, because their mothers did that .
we fast for their health and success on karwa chauth, but why don&#039;t they fast for us too?

these are just two example in my mind (but there are hundreds): 
a few days ago, i was watching an indian serial tv program, the husband and wife were arguing , the husband slapped the wife.. guess what the wife said? &quot;thank you&quot;.  i&#039;m serious, she said thank you for making me come to my senses.  and none of the women who were in the room (including my mom, two of my aunt, my cousin ) found anythign strange about that scene..

then a bad memory from when i was a child.  when we were kids , me and my cousins used to go to my grandma&#039;s house in the village during the school hoidays. it was the middle of summer and very very hot in india .  there was one tiny ceiling fan in the bedroom so me and my girl cousins would sit under the fan and play cards.  we get a little bit of air.  then my boy cousin came and pushed us off the bed and lied down there stretched his arms and legs out like a starfish under the fan.  i was upset so i called my grandma and guess what ?  my grandma got angry with me, she said &quot;dont you girls have any shame? playing games and sitting under the fan? come and help in the kitchen&quot; then the rest of the day we had to peel vegetables while my boy cousin was lieing under the fan watching tv.  

the thing that indian men want most is blind loyalty. he can do anything and she has to put up with it. even if she has the courage to leave, her parents and family will pressure her into staying in the marriage.  from when we are little girls we are told to &quot;adjust&quot; (a very &quot;feminine &quot; slave quality ) which basically means your feeling doesn&#039;t matter, even if you don&#039;t like it, you have to &quot;adjust&quot; to your husband.  

so that is indian culture for you.  obviously not every single family is like that... it depends on wealth, education , religion, etc.  but even the richest, most educated , non relgious progressive indian is more sexist than the average white man.

so my advice to you, is to forget about this lijo guy.  be really happy that you didn&#039;t marry him. at least , you broke up before marriage, instead of wasting your good years on him .

i think if you like indian culture and indian men, you should marry an indian man who was BORN AND RAISED IN THE WEST ...... then he would be more compatible with you .... wish you all the best in life sister :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry for my english, but i wanted to write this comment , from an indian girls perspective.</p>
<p>noreen, im sorry this happen to you, but don&#8217;t be sad&#8230;&#8230; trust me , it was the best thing ever that could have happen to you.  this guy seems really fake to me.  he exaggerates too much.  i know indian guys, they are the type to say &#8220;i love you&#8221; on the first date.. the words don&#8217;t mean anything to them. </p>
<p>i dont know if you want to believe me or not&#8230; but this is the truth: he didn&#8217;t marry the indian woman because he wanted to please his family, he married the indian women because he wanted a slave.  </p>
<p>he is a grown man and he can make his own decisions.  if he loved you , then he would have married you.  &#8220;my parents wouldn&#8217;t allow me&#8221; is just a silly excuse.  indian parents are not THAT bad.  so his parents might be upset , but once you have children , they will get over it and you will be a normal happy family , trust me .  </p>
<p>if an indian girl wants to marry a white guy , she could be disowned or even in s ome muslim famlies, there are horrible honor killings.  then if the indian girl and white guy gets divorce, no indian guy will marry her after that.  but indian guys doesn&#8217;t have to worry about these problems.  </p>
<p>he had nothing to lose by marrying you &#8230;. if he really loved you he would have married.   but thing is , he wanted a obedient slave . these indian guys will not even consider marrying an indian girl who is raised in the west because she is too westernized..  they want virgin, innocent, submissive, obedient, slave .  even though they are not virgin themselves, they want to date and have fun with western girls, tell them sweet lines, pretend to love , break their breaks and then marry indian girl. some indian guys think that white girls are easy because of bollywood movies. </p>
<p>you should be really happy that this guy didn&#8217;t marry you.  indian culture is very different.  if you married him, he might be nice for a few years but then this true personality will come out.  in india, little boys know that they are &#8220;better&#8221; and &#8220;more important&#8221; than girls at a young age&#8230; they are treated like little gods by everyone including their mothers who spoil them rotten.  in india, men are openly proud of their masculinity.  </p>
<p>in hindu culture, the husband is literally a god to his wife.<br />
we can&#8217;t call them by their  names.<br />
we have to do all the cooking and cleaning, indian men will expect it, because their mothers did that .<br />
we fast for their health and success on karwa chauth, but why don&#8217;t they fast for us too?</p>
<p>these are just two example in my mind (but there are hundreds):<br />
a few days ago, i was watching an indian serial tv program, the husband and wife were arguing , the husband slapped the wife.. guess what the wife said? &#8220;thank you&#8221;.  i&#8217;m serious, she said thank you for making me come to my senses.  and none of the women who were in the room (including my mom, two of my aunt, my cousin ) found anythign strange about that scene..</p>
<p>then a bad memory from when i was a child.  when we were kids , me and my cousins used to go to my grandma&#8217;s house in the village during the school hoidays. it was the middle of summer and very very hot in india .  there was one tiny ceiling fan in the bedroom so me and my girl cousins would sit under the fan and play cards.  we get a little bit of air.  then my boy cousin came and pushed us off the bed and lied down there stretched his arms and legs out like a starfish under the fan.  i was upset so i called my grandma and guess what ?  my grandma got angry with me, she said &#8220;dont you girls have any shame? playing games and sitting under the fan? come and help in the kitchen&#8221; then the rest of the day we had to peel vegetables while my boy cousin was lieing under the fan watching tv.  </p>
<p>the thing that indian men want most is blind loyalty. he can do anything and she has to put up with it. even if she has the courage to leave, her parents and family will pressure her into staying in the marriage.  from when we are little girls we are told to &#8220;adjust&#8221; (a very &#8220;feminine &#8221; slave quality ) which basically means your feeling doesn&#8217;t matter, even if you don&#8217;t like it, you have to &#8220;adjust&#8221; to your husband.  </p>
<p>so that is indian culture for you.  obviously not every single family is like that&#8230; it depends on wealth, education , religion, etc.  but even the richest, most educated , non relgious progressive indian is more sexist than the average white man.</p>
<p>so my advice to you, is to forget about this lijo guy.  be really happy that you didn&#8217;t marry him. at least , you broke up before marriage, instead of wasting your good years on him .</p>
<p>i think if you like indian culture and indian men, you should marry an indian man who was BORN AND RAISED IN THE WEST &#8230;&#8230; then he would be more compatible with you &#8230;. wish you all the best in life sister <img src='http://www.myindianlove.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Guest Blog Post #1, Love and Heartbreak: Lijo John and Noreen by Asha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Asha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2012 05:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry for my english, but i wanted to write this comment , from an indian girls perspective.

noreen, im sorry this happen to you, but don&#039;t be sad...... trust me , it was the best thing ever that could have happen to you.  this guy seems really fake to me.  he exaggerates too much.  i know indian guys, they are the type to say &quot;i love you&quot; on the first date.. the words don&#039;t mean anything to them. 

i dont know if you want to believe me or not... but this is the truth: he didn&#039;t marry the indian woman because he wanted to please his family, he married the indian women because he wanted a slave.  

he is a grown man and he can make his own decisions.  if he loved you , then he would have married you.  &quot;my parents wouldn&#039;t allow me&quot; is just a silly excuse.  indian guys are too coward to break up properly.  you know,  indian parents are not THAT bad.  so his parents might be upset , but once you have children , they will get over it and you will be a normal happy family .  

if an indian girl wants to marry a white guy , she could be disowned or even in s ome muslim famlies, there are horrible honor killings.  then if the indian girl and white guy gets divorce, no indian guy will marry her after that.  but indian guys doesn&#039;t have to worry about these problems.  theres a very nice double standard for them.

he had nothing to lose by marrying you .... if he really loved you he would have married.   but thing is , he wanted a obedient slave . these indian guys will not even consider marrying an indian girl who is raised in the west because she is too westernized..  they want virgin, innocent, submissive, obedient, slave .  even though they are not virgin themselves, they want to date and have fun with western girls, tell them sweet lines, pretend to love , break their breaks and then marry indian girl. some indian guys think that white girls are easy because of bollywood movies. 

you should be really happy that this guy didn&#039;t marry you.  indian culture is very different.  if you married him, he might be nice for a few years but then this true personality will come out.  in india, little boys know that they are &quot;better&quot; and &quot;more important&quot; than girls at a young age... they are treated like little gods by everyone including their mothers who spoil them rotten.  in india, men are openly proud of their masculinity.  

in hindu culture, the husband is literally a god to his wife.  
we can&#039;t call them by their  names.
we have to do all the cooking and cleaning, indian men will expect it, because their mothers did that .
we fast for their health and success on karwa chauth, but why don&#039;t they fast for us too?

these are just two example in my mind (but there are hundreds more ): 
a few days ago, i was watching an indian tv show, the husband and wife were arguing , the husband slapped the wife.. guess what the wife said? &quot;thank you&quot;.  i&#039;m serious, she said thank you for making me come to my senses.  and none of the women who were in the room (including my mom, two aunties, my cousin ) found anythign strange about that scene..

then a bad memory from when i was a child.  when we were kids , me and my cousins used to go to my grandma&#039;s house in the village during the school hoidays. it was the middle of summer and very very hot in india .  there was one tiny ceiling fan in the bedroom so me and my girl cousins would sit under the fan and play cards.  we get a little bit of air.  then one day my boy cousin came and pushed us off the bed and lied down there stretched his arms and legs out like a starfish under the fan.  i was upset so i called my grandma and guess what ?  my grandma got angry with me, she said &quot;dont you girls have any shame? playing games and sitting under the fan? come and help in the kitchen&quot; then the rest of the day we had to peel vegetables while my boy cousin was lieing under the fan watching tv.  

the thing that indian men want most is blind loyalty. he can do anything and she has to put up with it. even if she has the courage to leave, her parents and family will pressure her into staying in the marriage.  from when we are little girls we are told to &quot;adjust&quot; (a very &quot;feminine &quot; slave quality ) which basically means your feelings doesn&#039;t matter, even if you don&#039;t like it, you have to &quot;adjust&quot; to your husband. see how many indian grooms ask for &quot;adjusting&quot; wives in matrimonal ads. 

so that is indian culture for you.  obviously not every single family is like that... it depends on wealth, education , religion, etc.  but even the richest, most educated , non relgious progressive indian is more sexist than the average white man.

so my advice to you, is to forget about this lijo guy.  be really happy that you didn&#039;t marry him. at least , you broke up before marriage, instead of wasting your good years on him .

i think if you like indian culture and indian men, you should marry an indian man who was BORN AND RAISED IN THE WEST ...... then he would be more compatible with you .... wish you all the best in life sister :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry for my english, but i wanted to write this comment , from an indian girls perspective.</p>
<p>noreen, im sorry this happen to you, but don&#8217;t be sad&#8230;&#8230; trust me , it was the best thing ever that could have happen to you.  this guy seems really fake to me.  he exaggerates too much.  i know indian guys, they are the type to say &#8220;i love you&#8221; on the first date.. the words don&#8217;t mean anything to them. </p>
<p>i dont know if you want to believe me or not&#8230; but this is the truth: he didn&#8217;t marry the indian woman because he wanted to please his family, he married the indian women because he wanted a slave.  </p>
<p>he is a grown man and he can make his own decisions.  if he loved you , then he would have married you.  &#8220;my parents wouldn&#8217;t allow me&#8221; is just a silly excuse.  indian guys are too coward to break up properly.  you know,  indian parents are not THAT bad.  so his parents might be upset , but once you have children , they will get over it and you will be a normal happy family .  </p>
<p>if an indian girl wants to marry a white guy , she could be disowned or even in s ome muslim famlies, there are horrible honor killings.  then if the indian girl and white guy gets divorce, no indian guy will marry her after that.  but indian guys doesn&#8217;t have to worry about these problems.  theres a very nice double standard for them.</p>
<p>he had nothing to lose by marrying you &#8230;. if he really loved you he would have married.   but thing is , he wanted a obedient slave . these indian guys will not even consider marrying an indian girl who is raised in the west because she is too westernized..  they want virgin, innocent, submissive, obedient, slave .  even though they are not virgin themselves, they want to date and have fun with western girls, tell them sweet lines, pretend to love , break their breaks and then marry indian girl. some indian guys think that white girls are easy because of bollywood movies. </p>
<p>you should be really happy that this guy didn&#8217;t marry you.  indian culture is very different.  if you married him, he might be nice for a few years but then this true personality will come out.  in india, little boys know that they are &#8220;better&#8221; and &#8220;more important&#8221; than girls at a young age&#8230; they are treated like little gods by everyone including their mothers who spoil them rotten.  in india, men are openly proud of their masculinity.  </p>
<p>in hindu culture, the husband is literally a god to his wife.<br />
we can&#8217;t call them by their  names.<br />
we have to do all the cooking and cleaning, indian men will expect it, because their mothers did that .<br />
we fast for their health and success on karwa chauth, but why don&#8217;t they fast for us too?</p>
<p>these are just two example in my mind (but there are hundreds more ):<br />
a few days ago, i was watching an indian tv show, the husband and wife were arguing , the husband slapped the wife.. guess what the wife said? &#8220;thank you&#8221;.  i&#8217;m serious, she said thank you for making me come to my senses.  and none of the women who were in the room (including my mom, two aunties, my cousin ) found anythign strange about that scene..</p>
<p>then a bad memory from when i was a child.  when we were kids , me and my cousins used to go to my grandma&#8217;s house in the village during the school hoidays. it was the middle of summer and very very hot in india .  there was one tiny ceiling fan in the bedroom so me and my girl cousins would sit under the fan and play cards.  we get a little bit of air.  then one day my boy cousin came and pushed us off the bed and lied down there stretched his arms and legs out like a starfish under the fan.  i was upset so i called my grandma and guess what ?  my grandma got angry with me, she said &#8220;dont you girls have any shame? playing games and sitting under the fan? come and help in the kitchen&#8221; then the rest of the day we had to peel vegetables while my boy cousin was lieing under the fan watching tv.  </p>
<p>the thing that indian men want most is blind loyalty. he can do anything and she has to put up with it. even if she has the courage to leave, her parents and family will pressure her into staying in the marriage.  from when we are little girls we are told to &#8220;adjust&#8221; (a very &#8220;feminine &#8221; slave quality ) which basically means your feelings doesn&#8217;t matter, even if you don&#8217;t like it, you have to &#8220;adjust&#8221; to your husband. see how many indian grooms ask for &#8220;adjusting&#8221; wives in matrimonal ads. </p>
<p>so that is indian culture for you.  obviously not every single family is like that&#8230; it depends on wealth, education , religion, etc.  but even the richest, most educated , non relgious progressive indian is more sexist than the average white man.</p>
<p>so my advice to you, is to forget about this lijo guy.  be really happy that you didn&#8217;t marry him. at least , you broke up before marriage, instead of wasting your good years on him .</p>
<p>i think if you like indian culture and indian men, you should marry an indian man who was BORN AND RAISED IN THE WEST &#8230;&#8230; then he would be more compatible with you &#8230;. wish you all the best in life sister <img src='http://www.myindianlove.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Indian Men Who Date American Women by softshoulder</title>
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		<dc:creator>softshoulder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 19:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sven and a half months ago i met mim. he was quiet and shy. he has treated me better than any other man i have ever met in my life. i am 41 and he is 26. he has treated me like a queen and we are so much in love. in december he went to india for the wedding of a family member. he told his parents about us. his mother tryed to hurt herself and told him she would never let us be together. he told her he would never marry anyone else. he told me that he would fight for us but was afraid because he never thought his mom would be so backward in her thinking. when he left india after being there for three weeks his job took him to germany. we were texting and videochatting but after a few weeks i started to feel he was pushing me away. when i asked him he said no he wasnt and he loved me more than anything. two weeks ago we were on video chat and in the background i recognized his old apartment. i didnt tell him i did. the next morning i called him and asked him where he was. he told me he was in germany. so i went over to his apartment. he was there and had been in the states for over a week. we talked and he cried a lot. he told me that while he was in india his parents had made him responsible for the payments on there new home. and his mom was calling him every day since his return to ask if he had seen me. her only problem is with my age. raj is hoping that eventually his family will see how good i am for him and view me differently. for now we cannot stay away from each other.we are still seeing each other but with a few changes. he used to call me my love and he no longer does that. and he seems distant at times. he has a hard time dealing with emotion and we have been through a lot in the past month. i know how hard this is for him. i am his first love. and he has told me how sorry he is that we have to go through all of this but he doesnt want to loose his family. i know that this may never work but i have to try. raj comments on my tenacity he cant believe it sometimes. i am not looking to change how he feels about his family i believe that that is impossible. but as long as i can i will be here to love him and be his best friend. for me every moment spent with him is priceless and we would both regret any missed opportunity to feel love for each other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sven and a half months ago i met mim. he was quiet and shy. he has treated me better than any other man i have ever met in my life. i am 41 and he is 26. he has treated me like a queen and we are so much in love. in december he went to india for the wedding of a family member. he told his parents about us. his mother tryed to hurt herself and told him she would never let us be together. he told her he would never marry anyone else. he told me that he would fight for us but was afraid because he never thought his mom would be so backward in her thinking. when he left india after being there for three weeks his job took him to germany. we were texting and videochatting but after a few weeks i started to feel he was pushing me away. when i asked him he said no he wasnt and he loved me more than anything. two weeks ago we were on video chat and in the background i recognized his old apartment. i didnt tell him i did. the next morning i called him and asked him where he was. he told me he was in germany. so i went over to his apartment. he was there and had been in the states for over a week. we talked and he cried a lot. he told me that while he was in india his parents had made him responsible for the payments on there new home. and his mom was calling him every day since his return to ask if he had seen me. her only problem is with my age. raj is hoping that eventually his family will see how good i am for him and view me differently. for now we cannot stay away from each other.we are still seeing each other but with a few changes. he used to call me my love and he no longer does that. and he seems distant at times. he has a hard time dealing with emotion and we have been through a lot in the past month. i know how hard this is for him. i am his first love. and he has told me how sorry he is that we have to go through all of this but he doesnt want to loose his family. i know that this may never work but i have to try. raj comments on my tenacity he cant believe it sometimes. i am not looking to change how he feels about his family i believe that that is impossible. but as long as i can i will be here to love him and be his best friend. for me every moment spent with him is priceless and we would both regret any missed opportunity to feel love for each other.</p>
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