Will I Ever Date Another Indian?

Recently in the forums we got to discussing whether or not I would date another Indian if the opportunity ever arose. What started the conversation was me saying this:

As for me, I believe my experience with Indian relationships have come and gone. I'm not sure if I could go through it again. But India and all things Indian will always have a special place in my heart.

The responses got me to thinking and I thought the topic would make for a good blog post and further discussion.

I believe there are mostly two ways relationships with Indians begin:

There are those who first fall in love with India and due to this stumble on an Indian love, and then there are those who stumble upon an Indian and thus fall in love with India.

I fit in the latter. I never expected to meet and fall in love with MIM and I really never expected to have anything to do with India. (Isn't it great when life throws curve balls?) So now that it's finished, I find it hard to imagine starting all over again from square one with another Indian. I put so much blood, sweat, and tears into MIM and I's relationship that when it finally ended, all I felt was relief - to be honest.

I would like to clarify that our relationship wasn't bad. MIM was a great guy all the way and treated me wonderfully. But over time I couldn't see us evolving into husband and wife and our differences and small arguments here and there started to take a toll on us. In the end it simply became easier to walk away then to stay and fight what seemed like a losing battle. I'm sure a lot of you have been there: when enough is enough and walking away seems like the quickest way to renewed happiness for both involved.

When we first split I did think - man, I should just stick to Indians now that I've put so much work into learning  about their language, culture, food, and country - not to mention this website! But then I left for my six month contract on a ship and suddenly found myself with an American man who I started to share my time with.

Very quickly I realized how much I missed the ease of being with someone who "gets you" and whom you by default already share so much in common with. I realized how much I missed and yearned for similarities between two people.

I still reminisce and get wistful whenever I see Indians, especially cute Indian children, and just today while at the store I saw an Indian man/American woman couple with their three children. Perhaps in time these feelings will go away but, I spent so many years imagining myself with and Indian man and what our family would be like that I know this will take time to forget.

The short answer to the question will I ever date another Indian is: most likely not. As I said in the beginning of this post, I stumbled upon an Indian love and that led to my love of all things Indian. I wasn't looking for it and I'm still not. So chances are, no, it won't happen again. Of course in life I've learned to never say never!

Now I would love to hear from all of you! What made you date outside your culture/race and if it ended, have you or will you do it again?

 

My Indian Love’s New Forum!

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Home Sweet Home

That's right dear readers! I am back home, sweet, home from my six month singing contract aboard the Carnival Cruise Ship Pride. I am amazed that in my absence the blog continued on so strong! Over 500 comments on one post?! Wow!

During this time I had very limited internet access and therefore was unable to be the best blogger/monitor so my apologies if emails and comments went unanswered or anything else may have unraveled. On the other hand, it was a great relief to spend so much time away from the computer. I needed the break, trust me!

If you want to know anything about my experience working and living aboard the ship don't hesitate to ask. What I will say here is that it was an amazing time, one in which I got to live out my dream of being paid to do what I ultimately love the most; singing! I met some wonderful people who will remain long-lasting friends. I became better at my craft and I got to travel and live lavishly. What more could a girl ask for?

Ok, so what must be on your mind even more than the cruise ship experience is what's up with MIM and I. Am I right? Of course, this still is a blog about Indian Love! If you have been following for some time you will remember towards the end we were experiencing problems in our relationship. The differences we initially used to love about each other started to take a toll on us. Added to this, we both were struggling financially. When the ship opportunity came along, I accepted eagerly but of course this meant being far away from MIM. We lost touch over the duration of the contract, mostly because his way of moving on is shutting down communication completely. It is not my way to handle things but, what can I do? I've left him alone. Hopefully, life is treating him well and he is very happy. As far as I know he's still here in town, only a few minutes away from me currently, but I am not planning on contacting him while I am home. I know it's what he would want and, it's probably for the best.

I miss him terribly and think about him a lot, that will never change. As I recently stated on my "Welcome!" page, after much deliberation I've decided to keep My Indian Love active even considering recent events in our relationship. I still have a soft spot for all things Indian and believe I always will. I still enjoy reading your comments and am grateful to those who continued visiting my blog and keeping it active during my absence. I will not have a huge presence on this blog but I invite you all to take part in the forum I will soon input and to consider writing articles/posts of your own that could be published for all to see. To do this, click on contact me in the tabs section.

It's good to be home and thanks again for being faithful readers!

Indians on Ships

There are so many Indians working on cruise ships these days. I say "these days" as I don't recall as many six years ago - which was the last time I worked for Carnival. Of course, it may be because six years ago I simply hadn't noticed as much as I do now, given the circumstances have changed. Many of them work in security, others as wait staff or in the gift shop, and all over. We even have Samir, an Indian magician on board. I enjoy practicing my (very limited) Hindi with them. Many of the Indians are married with families back home that they are supporting from afar. They go back to India and their families after 6-9 months when their contract ends. When asking them if they would like to return home for good, many of them have said they prefer working on ships and will continue the lifestyle.

Update From the Ship – 3 Months In

Carnival Pride, Norwegian Jewel, and Royal Caribbean docked in Nassau, Bahamas

Well hello everyone! It's been a long time since I've gotten around to blogging. I've been enjoying my life aboard the cruise ship immensely. I've met so many amazing people from all over the world and have built a few new friendships which I know will last a lifetime. Best of all, I am getting paid to do what I love again - singing. I plan on continuing this as a career for at least a year.

I don't get around to checking the blog very much but I do notice when it gets out of hand with obscene comments. I apologize that I am not able to be a better moderator. Please just ignore the idiots - that's all I can say! This blog will come to an end soon anyways. This news may disappoint some, but I don't believe I will be renewing it when the time comes. It is simply not a part of my life anymore. MIM and I are no longer together as our lives have taken on two separate paths. Having an 'Indian Love' has passed but will always be a time in my life I will remember fondly.

I hope everyone out there is well and happy. Writing from our home port in Baltimore, Maryland, signing off, MDG

Passing the Torch

You may have noticed that I've taken a much needed break from the blogsphere these past few days. I haven't read, I haven't commented, I haven't posted.

My mind's been taken up by other things, like planning for the cruise ship, (which is coming up exactly a week from today!) and preparing a handmade gift for my niece's 1st birthday party tomorrow. Actually, the family just flew in from Denver this evening and Leila is the funniest little girl - she laughs so hard she brings tears to her eyes. What makes her laugh like this? Our dogs! She can't get enough of them and I can't get enough of her laugh.

After much thought, I've decided that being a dedicated blogger on the cruise ship is going to be near impossible for me. Besides the amount of time it takes to construct a post, I often spend hours a day responding to comments and email inquiries. With the ship's internet not being free, my only option will be to go online at certain ports with internet cafes or free wifi, but this alone is not going to be enough to remain a dedicated blogger.

I appreciate those of you who have asked me to continue blogging from the ship and I'm sure I'll get a post in here and there, but please understand that I will no longer be able to respond to every email inquiry or comment. For the six months I am away this blog will remain mostly dormant, but I hope the information it contains will continue to help others.

So for now, I am passing the torch to the other wonderful gori girls in blog land. I have greatly enjoyed being a blogger and will miss it a lot. For now at least, I must put my fingers to rest and get back to singing for my supper. ;)

I will miss you all so much! Muah! :-*

What I’m Missing

This morning I awoke to these photos in my email from my friend Yuliya. If you recall, Yuliya is from Kazakhstan and I met her through the volunteer teaching program I was involved in while in India. We hung out a few times together and she quickly became the best (and only!) friend I made while there. Short lived as it was, I miss her a lot.

The photos she sent are of the children of the Ramagondanahalli government school. These are the children I would be teaching English to if I had stayed in India. Believe me, it was bittersweet looking at these pictures!

Yuliya informed me that for many of these children, this is their last year of school. Look how young they are. It's sad to know most of these children will never have the opportunity to further their education and follow their dreams. Many of them will become maids, rickshaw drivers, and the like. But when you ask them what they "want to be when they grow up" they inspire for so much more.

The English teachers are finding it a struggle to make any headway with the children. Government school days are canceled so often and suddenly, and learning English takes a back seat to learning Kannada, the state language of Karnataka.

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RamaGondanaHalli Government School

Outside view of the school posted by shastrix on flickr.

Life’s Like That – A Mixed Match!

Ya'll I'm getting behind, it's true! Your comments on the How Long Did You Wait and Why post were awesome. Really, thank you for taking the time out to share your personal experiences. Not only do they help me, but I believe it has been and will continue to be informative to others who visit the blog. I have fallen behind in responding but I read every single one of your posts with such eagerness!

So here's what I've got for today: I came across these youtube videos in the comments section of another gori blog and after watching them it struck me how often I think of the struggles and differences between western and eastern relationships but don't tend to think about the struggles and differences that go on between couples who are both Indian living in India, but who have different religions, castes, or languages.

This should be so obvious since India is such a diverse country and I have even personally met a girl who's entire village separated due to her marrying outside her caste. Still, I never pondered on it much until watching these interviews between Indian couples.

I've also noticed the religion conversation has started up again in the comments, especially which religion to teach children when there's two religions involved in a marriage, and some couples in these videos along with their children talk about how they've handled multiple religions in one household.

I hope you enjoy the videos below as much as I did. They are not in any set order so you can watch them all or watch whichever title grabs your fancy the most. But if you're anything like me, I couldn't watch just one; I was instantly hooked.

  • I follow Hinduism, Islam: Kabeer -Son following both religions. Also, Punjabi man speaks about his son having language problems due to mixed marriage and too many languages in one household.

Heifer International in India

Four young girls in the village of Bagad-Rajput, India - Brigitte Lacombe Photography

 

I always thought if I had the opportunity to go back to India that this time around I'd like to do volunteer and charity work for a non-profit organization. I was almost able to do this when I was given the opportunity to teach English to young children at a government school near my home in Bangalore, but after many delays in the program, I left India before I was able to begin.

Heifer International, a non profit organization dedicated to relieving global hunger and poverty, has recently gotten in touch with me to help spread the word about their organization and also their very recent accomplishment: In April 2010, they traveled to Rajasthan and "sat with women from five villages who shared stories of their journeys from oppression and poverty to empowerment". Their trip was documented through photographs and videos and  "provide a glimpse into the lives of the women who are working diligently to change the course of the future for their daughters and their communities."

There are so many ways one can get involved and help out. I feel happy doing my part for now, which is spreading the word. Any little bit helps. Women and children all over the world should have access to education and the training needed to move ahead in life and feel powerful and good about themselves.

How Long Did You Wait and Why?

Indian/Western relationship blogs are springing up all over the place these days and it's allowed me to take a peek into how other people have handled the stepping stones of their intercultural relationships.

I am more and more shocked when I read how early in the relationship some couples are jumping into marriage and children. As you know, MIM and I have been dating for 3 years. Others are engaged, married, or pregnant only months in.

Perhaps it is my past experiences with having months of infatuation only turn into a separation a year or two later, with me looking back and thinking thank God I didn't marry that man, that has me so taken aback at such speedy life-altering decisions.

But I'm not here to judge. In fact, I've just now started questioning if MIM and I made a mistake by not jumping into a marriage quicker. What's interesting to point out cultural wise is MIM's family and friends were always pushing a marriage from the very beginning where as my family and friends were hesitant and cautioning. A reader, "Bee", had said this in a recent comment:

I feel both you and your boyfriend are handling your relationship with a great sense of maturity and responsibility. It very encouraging and it is the way it should be, instead of rushing into commitment and realising later down the road that perhaps you have not made the right, informed choice and by that time your decision has affected and possibly hurt other people close to you i.e. your families, who love you dearly and want the best for you.

You can read the full conversation in the comments section of this post, MDG and MIM Update.

I usually would completely agree with Bee's statement. But now I've started questioning if MIM and I had married much earlier, what would have been different? He wouldn't have had to go back to school for a second master's just to stay in the U.S., that's for sure. Without having to go to school full time on top of teaching classes, perhaps he would have had more time to find a job, and by now we would be doing better in the financial area of our lives. With us being married and him on his way to a green card and citizenship, he wouldn't have had to only take the jobs that would agree to process an H1-visa. We would have also been able to move anywhere in the country, perhaps a place with a stronger job economy instead of this beat up old steel town we currently live in. And perhaps, we wouldn't be going through what we are now, because it's not just religion that's causing this break in our relationship, but that our struggles have gone on for way too long and I simply needed a break from it all.

Here is a secret not many people, including my parents, know about (until now!). MIM and I had gotten an engagement ring about seven months into our relationship. It was a cute, little $500 solitaire that we picked out together, and then I freaked out that it was too soon and we quickly returned it. Since then, we had planned to get a civil marriage at least twice, both times my parents were informed, and both times we both ultimately backed out.

Why? Well, we both have this image of how marriage is supposed to be, how a life together is supposed to be, and a quick civil marriage in a courtroom doesn't quite cut it. We also didn't want to jump into a marriage before we felt secure in our finances. And of course, we speculated too much on what others would think: "Did he marry her for a green card?"

Now I'm starting to wonder, are our fantasies of how things should be, or are "supposed" to be, holding us back? Would jumping into a marriage seven months in been better for us?

This whole "taking time apart" and "stepping back to reevaluate" process is bringing up a lot of questions and concerns. Not only about our relationship, but I'm also taking a long, hard, look at myself. My life feels very out of place. Very off course. Have I done it to myself? Would I have been married and on my way to being a mother if I didn't hesitate so much and wait for the fairy tale to come together just so?

Life's questions; they're never ending. But now I have questions for all of you:.

  • How long did you wait to get married or start a family and why?
  • What were the reactions of those around you?
  • What made you decide to rush or wait? What do you wish you had done differently?
  • What do you think is better - a short courtship or a long one?
  • Would you or did you marry before everything else was in its place? Did it work out or not?

Those of you who are not married please feel free to give your opinions on these questions. Or perhaps you know of a couple who did this or that, and can tell us how it worked out for them.

I'm looking forward to hearing from all of you.

Before ending this post, I want to remind you to get you and your loved ones photos in for the childhood memories post coming next Sunday!

The Taj Mahal … Lounge?

Recently I was browsing the Carnival Cruise Line website to learn more about the ship I will be singing on, The Pride.

And then, I saw this: What you are looking at my friends, is the Taj Mahal Lounge. Believe it or not this is the name of the lounge I will be doing much of my performing in.

Just when you thought I was going to be taking a break from all things Indian...

Isn't God a great practical joker?

Our Day of Closure and the End of This Blog?

MIM and I planned yesterday to be our day to meet up, to talk face to face, and have proper closer if need be. My friends and family didn't understand the whole "meeting in person for closure" idea, as they believe if something is over, it's over, and what good is meeting in person going to do?

I could understand their points of view but that didn't stop me from wanting to see MIM again. And in fact, after texting MIM, "Can we meet to talk?" and receiving a big, fat, capital letters "NO", I wasn't sure it was ever going to happen. But I don't give up that easily, and soon we made plans to meet at 4pm at his place, where we talked while taking a stroll through the nearby park where we've walked hand in hand many times before.

At the start, MIM was very stiff and wouldn't even look at me. It brought back memories of when we first met and he was too shy to hardly make eye contact with me. I did most of the talking at first, with uncomfortable silence coming from his end. I brought up the topics of whether we thought this could work or not, whether we wanted it to work or not, and asked if our differences were too great.

MIM finally responded that he believes our differences are too great and that he realizes he would be better off with an Indian girl after all, someone from his same background and culture. He said he is happy we dated though, as it helped him realize this. "And you can go back to dating white guys who understand your culture," he said.

Ok, fair enough, I thought, although I didn't quite believe he believed everything he was saying.

Still walking, I then brought up my blog which seemed a little off topic; "Do you think the blog affected us in anyway?" I asked. He didn't understand what I meant. "Well," I continued, "everyone's comments and suggestions, do you think they've affected how we think and react to each other at all?"

I brought this up not only because I thought I started noticing MIM's views on me as a white American woman were tending to sound similar to certain hurtful blog comments, but also because of a film I recently watched titled We Live in Public, where a relationship was filmed and broadcast online 24/7 that ultimately led to when the couple argued, instead of working things out between each other ran to their prospective computers to see what the readers had to say about the fight. The couple then began reacting to each other after being influenced by the fan's viewpoints instead of what they personally may have felt in their own hearts. To say the least, the concept freaked me out a little and I started to question if this blog could have affected MIM and I negatively in any way as well.

MIM didn't think this to be true between us, but I still can't help but question if we'd be better off going back to complete anonymity. I'm considering saying goodbye to this blog and closing this chapter of my life. It's been an amazing experience, I've met some wonderful people through it, and I've greatly enjoyed the process of writing, taking photos, posting, and reading what you all have to say. But I don't want it to have any negative affects on MIM and I, and I'd like to go back to a day where we didn't always reference the blog in conversation and what "he or she said". I'm still sorting it out within me.

So, did we get our closure? Well, sort of, and in a funny, ironic way too. As the walk and talk continued on, we grew more comfortable with each other and ended up not wanting to part, so we didn't. Instead, we went to the movie theatre and watched The Social Network, a movie about the founders of facebook. As we were heading home from the theatre, MIM says sarcastically, "our relationship began and ended with facebook."

I laughed. He's right. I guess it did.

MIM and I still love each other a lot. We know this by after 3 years together still having to tear ourselves away from each other. But we're also trying to be smart about our relationship and look ahead into the future and all the possible hardships we may have to come across. Is it a good idea to continue?

What we've decided for now is to go our separate ways, but as two people who really care about the other, and to simply see what fate has in store for us. I am leaving for the cruise ship November 15th. He has a year of grad school left. We'll both be keeping busy. At the end of the year perhaps he'll find a job, and I'll have a good amount of money saved up from the ship, and we could begin a life together, actually moving forward instead of being as stagnant as we have been. Until then, MDG and MIM are taking different paths.

Even though we hadn't spoken in a month, and then it took a while to warm up to each other when we did finally meet, and although we ultimately decided to part, it was so sweet when he whispered in my ear at the end of the night: "don't go."

I didn't.